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Continued: what is web2.0?

By Heri Oct 14th 2007 in Design

I just closed the poll about the meaning of web2.0, there were 48 votes which seemed enough:

  • hype, mostly 8% (4 votes)
  • I don’t even know what ”web2.0” means 0% (0 votes)
  • it’s short for we create all the content, and they keep all the (ad) money 4% (2 votes)
  • it’s the new tools and technologies like AJAX, APIs, RSS, microformats, Rich Internet Applications 20% (10 votes)
  • it’s blogs, social networking, wikis, syndication, and crowdsourcing 25% (13 votes)
  • it’s the transition from desktop-based software to online/browser applications 22% (11 votes)
  • it’s the future of the Internet and the computer 12% (6 votes)
  • a buzzword that lacks any revenue or business model 4% (2 votes)

Most readers of MontrealTechWatch seem to have a clear idea about what web2.0 means, and they are also quite optimistic about it.

There were also 3 other answers:

  • A semantic web might be worth a 2.0 version. AJAX and interactivity is more like…
  • it’s convergence between industries, products ans services and converging player
  • All of the above

I don’t quite understand the part about “convergence”. A semantic web is another problem that was pursued by many since the Internet’s birth, but is not yet solved. The third option is somehow true, but it’s an answer that is too easy.

For everyone who participated, thanks a lot!

To be fair, I will also give my answer. Web2.0 is for me the appropriation of the Internet users as a tool of communication, creation, information and work. Before web2.0, there was a common understanding that users “surf” the web, and consume whatever companies threw at them. Means of communication was limited to email and chat, and if you had websites where you could publish something, there were built as closed gardens where one had to register to experience, or worse pay a subscription fee. Web companies did that to artificially bump their number of users and thought that keeping a proprietary platform would prevent users to go elsewhere. Those were the days where external links were opened in new windows, if not forbidden, and where they messed with your browser so that you couldn’t leave the website. New startups came, and shattered that conception of the web, allowing users to reuse the data, allowing other companies to get and republish the data, make the data avalaible through other channels, and most importantly, focus their business model entirely on content created by each user, instead of serving them content created by big companies. With this came blogs, social networks, pictures, videos, news, music, all user-focused.

It’s true also that web2.0 was quickly grabbed by the marketing types and the next day, you had bloggers and new startups trying to give their own version of web2.0, which made the word somehow meaningless. In that regard, web2.0 is hyped, true; but it may be necessary. web2.0 is in its teenage days, and still trying to define itself. I used myself to see it as pure hype, but when you think about it, this really is the social usage of the web that is most suited to the technical nature of the Internet: a distributed tool of communication that allows personalization.

Finally, about tools and technologies, I don’t think AJAX has something to do with web2.0, gradients and stickers don’t either. They were the icing on the cake that pinpointed the changes to the user. However, RSS and APIs did a lot to the new movement and I believe will still play a bigger role.

I also like this illustration by eboy, which shows a chaotic web2.0 world:

eboy web2.0

You can click on the illustration to see other materials and posters.

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Comments

  • Montreal Tech Watch October 14, 2007

    new post: Continued: what is web2.0? http://tinyurl.com/2mtjw9

  • Howard Oliver October 14, 2007

    It is the READ/WRITE web – simple…. You read, write, react, comment, upload, download – generally get involved…

  • Heri October 15, 2007

    Howard Oliver, that’s also a good view of web2.0, although one that I wouldn’t use personnally

  • Bruno Boutot October 15, 2007

    This reminds me of a true story: soon after Tim O’Reilly had popularized “Web 2.0″, I had a conversation with Sylvain Carle and I was very proud of my suggestion: “Web 1.0 was about things; Web 2.0 is about people”. So he just smiled and googled Web 2.0 is people. Looks like a lot of people had the same idea.
    Good times. :-)

  • Michael Black October 17, 2007

    I started a long comment, but before I post it I’ll
    point to
    which I wrote in early November of 1996 and posted
    where others could read it. It proves a) that
    the internet was not a passive experience back
    then, b) we certainly could post what we liked,
    and c) some of us did have a vision back
    then that very much diminishes this notion
    of a “web 2.0″ now.

    As background, Libertel was Montreal’s Freenet,
    access for all. We waited three years for it,
    and it lasted only four months. It was apparent
    to me at the time that they were unable to make
    the leap to the internet, which in part explains
    the failure. The next week, they announced the
    closing, they’d run out of money.

    Note that the neeting goers had decided that the
    users could not have personal webpages, they treated
    the user base as passive users of the internet.
    It had nothing to do with commerce, it had everything
    to do with people’s perception of the world. They
    had meetings, the rest followed. Meanwhile, right
    from the beginning it was my role to not be passive.

    Michael

  • Michael Black October 17, 2007

    Now that’s absurd, the link doesn’t even show up.
    What was that about openness?

    http://www.pubnix.net/mblack/finger.html

    It’s precisely because this is “your space” that
    I slapped it up on “my space” and only put
    the URL here.

    Michael

  • Heri October 17, 2007

    michael black: the website is open for comments, but there is an automatic spam filter if you post too many links.

    also, i agree it was possible back in 1996 to have an “active” experience, but it was a minority of websites, and it was not user-focused

  • Handy Angebote January 24, 2011

    This really answered my problem, thank you!

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