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	<title>Comments on: Using P2P as your startup&#8217;s infrastructure</title>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Update Caused the Great Skype Outage &#124; A View from the Isle</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/21/using-p2p-as-your-startups-infrastructure/#comment-8935</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft Update Caused the Great Skype Outage &#124; A View from the Isle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heri at Montreal Tech Watch extended on my thinking about P2P networks and linked to a really interesting post by Marc from Tungle with some insight into the outage. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Heri at Montreal Tech Watch extended on my thinking about P2P networks and linked to a really interesting post by Marc from Tungle with some insight into the outage. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Technology and Innovation in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/21/using-p2p-as-your-startups-infrastructure/#comment-2214</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology and Innovation in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Marc Gingras writes about P2P technology issues, following heated criticism from the blogosphere about skype&#8217;s outage. His startup, tungle.com, relies on P2P to sync managers&#8217; meeting schedules. (August 21st) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Marc Gingras writes about P2P technology issues, following heated criticism from the blogosphere about skype&#8217;s outage. His startup, tungle.com, relies on P2P to sync managers&#8217; meeting schedules. (August 21st) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Heri</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/21/using-p2p-as-your-startups-infrastructure/#comment-1784</link>
		<dc:creator>Heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i find also skype very reliable. but have you noticed that they don&#039;t advertise it as &quot;telephone&quot; in their webpage? there isn&#039;t a name either, just descriptions of the service. Vonage, on the other hand, which does VOIP, has advertised itself as providing telephone services. So they had to follow strict laws from the FTC in the US and pay fees when their service was down. and meanwhile, skype doesnt have to pay anything.... because the point here is that they never promised anything to their customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://heri.madmedia.ca'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/76d226166e7f70ccb556f5bb043512aa?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>i find also skype very reliable. but have you noticed that they don&#8217;t advertise it as &#8220;telephone&#8221; in their webpage? there isn&#8217;t a name either, just descriptions of the service. Vonage, on the other hand, which does VOIP, has advertised itself as providing telephone services. So they had to follow strict laws from the FTC in the US and pay fees when their service was down. and meanwhile, skype doesnt have to pay anything&#8230;. because the point here is that they never promised anything to their customers.</p>
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		<title>By: catech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Microsoft Update Caused the Great Skype Outage</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/21/using-p2p-as-your-startups-infrastructure/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>catech &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Microsoft Update Caused the Great Skype Outage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Heri at Montreal Tech Watch extended on my thinking about P2P networks&#160;and linked to a really interesting post by Marc from Tungle with some insight into the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Heri at Montreal Tech Watch extended on my thinking about P2P networks&nbsp;and linked to a really interesting post by Marc from Tungle with some insight into the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tris Hussey</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/21/using-p2p-as-your-startups-infrastructure/#comment-1744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tris Hussey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Carl, but Tungle&#039;s approach is cool.  I liked Marc&#039;s post as well.

Actually I think true P2P will work well, but it&#039;s the combination with the authentication that nailed Skype ... 

Also I find it ironic that the whole supernode issue, which Skype has caught a lot of flack for in the past from network admins, didn&#039;t save it this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://catech.blognation.com/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4d57a08209d3441b36ea4a13ca79e106?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>I agree with Carl, but Tungle&#8217;s approach is cool.  I liked Marc&#8217;s post as well.</p>
<p>Actually I think true P2P will work well, but it&#8217;s the combination with the authentication that nailed Skype &#8230; </p>
<p>Also I find it ironic that the whole supernode issue, which Skype has caught a lot of flack for in the past from network admins, didn&#8217;t save it this time.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Mercier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Mercier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skype is usually extremely reliable.  Downtime happens, unfortunately.  As long as it&#039;s extremely rare as it&#039;s been the case, I&#039;m fine with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://defensio.com'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/9c2d9c73920c971cd33ca27b59f3e2a9?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>Skype is usually extremely reliable.  Downtime happens, unfortunately.  As long as it&#8217;s extremely rare as it&#8217;s been the case, I&#8217;m fine with it.</p>
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