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		<title>By: Lawanna Biernat</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-914044</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawanna Biernat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know of released jogs my memory of one other identical 1 Someone said someplace else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://submityournewsst.info/forum/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/4878e6e991b2d3f1fac58d669ebf3bb3?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>Do you know of released jogs my memory of one other identical 1 Someone said someplace else?</p>
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		<title>By: Technology and Innovation in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-2212</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology and Innovation in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CakeMail has launched!!! (August 15th) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duncan Moore</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-1540</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Heri: Yes, after your comment we realized that we need to add additional info right in the interface, likely on the confirmation page at sign-up, which should address all the points you raised. 

We&#039;ve been working on this for so long that we tend to forget that this new way of doing things may not be so obvious to everyone initially!  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://www.thecodekitchen.com/blog/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a406f9df176b0529c942b0a9a4ed7499?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>@Heri: Yes, after your comment we realized that we need to add additional info right in the interface, likely on the confirmation page at sign-up, which should address all the points you raised. </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been working on this for so long that we tend to forget that this new way of doing things may not be so obvious to everyone initially!  ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Heri</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-1539</link>
		<dc:creator>Heri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>duncan: will send an email today with more details.

thanks for the comment too. although the part about customization and whitelabelling cakemail is now clear to me, i think you should make it clearer on the website. say, for instance, make an obvious button &quot;customize interface&quot;. instead, i landed on a page that invited me to write a mailing. 

matthew: i used campaign monitor for 3 different projects and always find myself wondering how to add emails to a campaign. i use the service to launch websites and am always asking myself if i am doing the right thing. seems to me that what i want to do is never suggested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://heri.madmedia.ca'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/76d226166e7f70ccb556f5bb043512aa?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>duncan: will send an email today with more details.</p>
<p>thanks for the comment too. although the part about customization and whitelabelling cakemail is now clear to me, i think you should make it clearer on the website. say, for instance, make an obvious button &#8220;customize interface&#8221;. instead, i landed on a page that invited me to write a mailing. </p>
<p>matthew: i used campaign monitor for 3 different projects and always find myself wondering how to add emails to a campaign. i use the service to launch websites and am always asking myself if i am doing the right thing. seems to me that what i want to do is never suggested.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Patterson</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathew Patterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Heri,

Mathew from Campaign Monitor here. It&#039;s great to see new ideas coming into the email newsletter application area.

We&#039;d love to hear your feedback about what you find confusing or complicated about Campaign Monitor - we&#039;re always looking to improve the experience. Drop us a line any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://www.campaignmonitor.com/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/6fbe52cae9f15ac6009e6c7aebac148b?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>Hi Heri,</p>
<p>Mathew from Campaign Monitor here. It&#8217;s great to see new ideas coming into the email newsletter application area.</p>
<p>We&#8217;d love to hear your feedback about what you find confusing or complicated about Campaign Monitor &#8211; we&#8217;re always looking to improve the experience. Drop us a line any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Technology Entrepreneurs Breakfast in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology Entrepreneurs Breakfast in August &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] everybody. I talked first with Francois Lane, from the code chicken, which is developing CakeMail (preview). We talked about how his company was started and also about his next planned product, a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Duncan Moore</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/08/15/cakemail-now-in-beta/#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Heri. Thanks for the review; we&#039;re happy to hear you found it easier to use than Campaign Monitor!

We&#039;ll look into the registration address issue right away (this is the first time we&#039;ve heard of there being a problem, but once is one time too many as far as we&#039;re concerned!). As you can appreciate, there are a myriad different reasons why that could have been marked as spam, some of which are outside our control. Could you let us know what email client and spam filters you are using? Thanks!

A few important clarifications:

- Other companies do offer varying degrees of white/private labeling. The difference with Cake is that it&#039;s a dedicated white label platform, meaning we *only* deal with resellers and there will be no CakeMail brand targeted at end-users.

- The interface you tested is what the end-user sees and thus cannot be modified by the user. As we mentioned in our email to you, there&#039;s an additional step for customizing (namely: downloading the HTML templates and CSS files); sorry if that wasn&#039;t clear. White labeling means you actually host the interface on your own server with your own domain name and you can change the interface however you please, from placing your logo in it to redesigning it altogether. All communication between the interface and the API is through encrypted XML.

- Unless our resellers request otherwise, our wholesale pricing will not be disclosed to the general public because resellers are free to price things however they want, depending on the services they offer. Suffice it say that Cake offers wholesale pricing that is very competitive compared to the industry average. Prospective resellers are welcome to contact us for wholesale pricing details.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://www.thecodekitchen.com/blog/'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/a406f9df176b0529c942b0a9a4ed7499?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>Hi, Heri. Thanks for the review; we&#8217;re happy to hear you found it easier to use than Campaign Monitor!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll look into the registration address issue right away (this is the first time we&#8217;ve heard of there being a problem, but once is one time too many as far as we&#8217;re concerned!). As you can appreciate, there are a myriad different reasons why that could have been marked as spam, some of which are outside our control. Could you let us know what email client and spam filters you are using? Thanks!</p>
<p>A few important clarifications:</p>
<p>- Other companies do offer varying degrees of white/private labeling. The difference with Cake is that it&#8217;s a dedicated white label platform, meaning we *only* deal with resellers and there will be no CakeMail brand targeted at end-users.</p>
<p>- The interface you tested is what the end-user sees and thus cannot be modified by the user. As we mentioned in our email to you, there&#8217;s an additional step for customizing (namely: downloading the HTML templates and CSS files); sorry if that wasn&#8217;t clear. White labeling means you actually host the interface on your own server with your own domain name and you can change the interface however you please, from placing your logo in it to redesigning it altogether. All communication between the interface and the API is through encrypted XML.</p>
<p>- Unless our resellers request otherwise, our wholesale pricing will not be disclosed to the general public because resellers are free to price things however they want, depending on the services they offer. Suffice it say that Cake offers wholesale pricing that is very competitive compared to the industry average. Prospective resellers are welcome to contact us for wholesale pricing details.</p>
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