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	<title>Comments on: Poll of the Week, #2: Innovation in Media</title>
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		<title>By: Technology News in July &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/07/01/poll-of-the-week-2-innovation-in-media/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>Technology News in July &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Poll about innovation in media, with a detailed response from fagstein (July 3rd) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Poll of the week, #3: who reads MontrealTechWatch &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/07/01/poll-of-the-week-2-innovation-in-media/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll of the week, #3: who reads MontrealTechWatch &#124; Montreal Tech Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] weekly polls. But anyway, the previous poll about media didn&#8217;t get enough votes, and I think fagstein had a very interesting take about what media owners should do now. Which should be enough for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] weekly polls. But anyway, the previous poll about media didn&#8217;t get enough votes, and I think fagstein had a very interesting take about what media owners should do now. Which should be enough for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Denis Canuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denis Canuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 22:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very hard for a large company to simply switch their business model overnight. I like the fact that cyberpresse and canoe now have blogs. I think the future of news will be coming from individuals rather than companies but this is hard to monetize. Some sites attempt to payback contributors but I think the model is not quite right yet. 

Also, people not only like to read news but they also  like to participate (think slashdot or any other similar site). And strangely enough, some people don&#039;t mind seeing the same stuff over and over (think digg where people decide). 

This poll is very timely (sorry for the shameless plug) as I&#039;m working on a startup which will focus on media in an entirely new way. That&#039;s all I can say so far but I can keep you updated if you want. 

Finally, I guess I would like to take the opportunity to ask everyone: &quot;what sucks&quot; and &quot;what rocks&quot; in today&#039;s media sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://www.QuebecValley.com'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/97d96cf3ff78caf58fd6d29cc1af2d76?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>It&#8217;s very hard for a large company to simply switch their business model overnight. I like the fact that cyberpresse and canoe now have blogs. I think the future of news will be coming from individuals rather than companies but this is hard to monetize. Some sites attempt to payback contributors but I think the model is not quite right yet. </p>
<p>Also, people not only like to read news but they also  like to participate (think slashdot or any other similar site). And strangely enough, some people don&#8217;t mind seeing the same stuff over and over (think digg where people decide). </p>
<p>This poll is very timely (sorry for the shameless plug) as I&#8217;m working on a startup which will focus on media in an entirely new way. That&#8217;s all I can say so far but I can keep you updated if you want. </p>
<p>Finally, I guess I would like to take the opportunity to ask everyone: &#8220;what sucks&#8221; and &#8220;what rocks&#8221; in today&#8217;s media sites?</p>
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		<title>By: Fagstein</title>
		<link>http://montrealtechwatch.com/2007/07/01/poll-of-the-week-2-innovation-in-media/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>Fagstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the above.

The things you have listed here are exactly what&#039;s wrong with current media thinking. They have no clue what they&#039;re doing online, so they figure they&#039;ll just sprinkle some Web 2.0-ness onto their crappy web properties as if that&#039;ll magically attract more readers and advertising dollars.

Here&#039;s some other suggestions:

1. Stop crippling websites out of fear that your subscription rates will go down. For $20 a month, very few people will make their subscription decisions based on what stories are free online vs. what needs subscriber access.

2. Learn Web 1.0 before Web 2.0. Hire people at more than $8 an hour to put print stories online. Link related stories together. When documents or websites are mentioned in stories, link to them. Spend more than three seconds on the formatting to ensure that hard and soft returns are fixed, or that tables don&#039;t look like garbage.

3. Focus on the content. People go to newspaper websites for articles, not all the gimmicks, badly-produced videos, audio slide-shows and other stuff you throw at us on the homepage. Make the articles prominent in your design, and make finding them easier.

4. Use word-of-mouth to your advantage. This is one of the lessons of Web 2.0. Make linking to articles easy with short URLs, no pop-ups or crazy javascript toys that cripple the browsing experience. Encourage people to share excerpts from articles instead of threatening them with copyright warnings.

5. Allow moderated comments on all articles. Approve those that add anything useful to the article, like clarifications, corrections, responses, different points of view.

6. Get a fucking domain name and use it. Of the Montreal newspapers, only Le Devoir actually hosts its articles on a website with its domain name. Using canada.com, cyberpresse.ca and canoe.ca might make the corporate bosses happy, but it just confuses your readers.

7. Shorten your URLs, or at least have them make sense:
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=CPBLOGUES14
http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/tech/default.aspx
These are the homepages of these blogs. Individual post links will be even longer. I&#039;m sure both have cute shortcuts that only their authors really use. But shouldn&#039;t that in itself be an indication that there&#039;s a problem to fix here? (At least Canoe got it right with their redesign: Dominic Arpin&#039;s blog URL is the short (though redundant) http://doa.blogue.canoe.com/dominicarpin.

8. Put online advertisers on a leash. I have to close web pages with newspaper articles because my CPU time is being gobbled up with dozens of overly-complicated ads desperate to get my attention. Stop these automatically-playing videos, whether they have audio or not. Stop these ads that assume because you swiped your cursor over them to get to the close button that this is permission to take over your computer and block the editorial content. Limit ads on the homepage so people can find their way to inside content (would newspapers put this many ads on their page one?)

9. Pick a layout and stick to it. I want a simple homepage with links to individual sections. I don&#039;t want to spend 20 minutes while my computer figures out how the 30 sections of this homepage, each with its individual layout logic, are put together on a page that scrolls down for eternity.

10. Use blogs better. Put beat writers on blogs. Have blogs by experts, not laypeople. Encourage people to visit and comment. Don&#039;t force people to go through your 20-page registration process before they can comment on a blog or story.

11. Hire professionals if you&#039;re branching out. I don&#039;t want badly-lit videos of talking heads shot by writers.

12. Encourage, but do not rely on, user-generated content. Yeah, finding people who have been screwed over by companies or the government will be easy. But crowdsourcing is not going to make you money. You still need qualified professionals with the time and skills to do quality 

13. Put your archives online. You have huge databases of content that just sits there for some unknown reason. Blogs stay online forever, and you&#039;re just losing ad money and reputation when someone following a link comes to a page that says &quot;this article is no longer available.&quot;

14. Don&#039;t hire newspaper people to do online work. Hire web professionals and listen to what they have to say. Make them work alongside real newspaper people who can concern themselves with putting out a quality pulp product instead of trying to figure out your online content management system.

15. Hire me as a consultant ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:right; margin-left:7px; display:block; width:48px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://blog.fagstein.com/'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/540b171184cecb2c56fe08d963b9f444?s=48&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fmontrealtechwatch.com%2Fimages%2Fsmall_gravatar.jpg%3Fs%3D48&amp;r=G' class='avatar avatar-48 photo' height='48' width='48' /></a></span>None of the above.</p>
<p>The things you have listed here are exactly what&#8217;s wrong with current media thinking. They have no clue what they&#8217;re doing online, so they figure they&#8217;ll just sprinkle some Web 2.0-ness onto their crappy web properties as if that&#8217;ll magically attract more readers and advertising dollars.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some other suggestions:</p>
<p>1. Stop crippling websites out of fear that your subscription rates will go down. For $20 a month, very few people will make their subscription decisions based on what stories are free online vs. what needs subscriber access.</p>
<p>2. Learn Web 1.0 before Web 2.0. Hire people at more than $8 an hour to put print stories online. Link related stories together. When documents or websites are mentioned in stories, link to them. Spend more than three seconds on the formatting to ensure that hard and soft returns are fixed, or that tables don&#8217;t look like garbage.</p>
<p>3. Focus on the content. People go to newspaper websites for articles, not all the gimmicks, badly-produced videos, audio slide-shows and other stuff you throw at us on the homepage. Make the articles prominent in your design, and make finding them easier.</p>
<p>4. Use word-of-mouth to your advantage. This is one of the lessons of Web 2.0. Make linking to articles easy with short URLs, no pop-ups or crazy javascript toys that cripple the browsing experience. Encourage people to share excerpts from articles instead of threatening them with copyright warnings.</p>
<p>5. Allow moderated comments on all articles. Approve those that add anything useful to the article, like clarifications, corrections, responses, different points of view.</p>
<p>6. Get a fucking domain name and use it. Of the Montreal newspapers, only Le Devoir actually hosts its articles on a website with its domain name. Using canada.com, cyberpresse.ca and canoe.ca might make the corporate bosses happy, but it just confuses your readers.</p>
<p>7. Shorten your URLs, or at least have them make sense:<br />
<a href="http://www.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=CPBLOGUES14" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyberpresse.ca/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=CPBLOGUES14</a><br />
<a href="http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/tech/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://communities.canada.com/montrealgazette/blogs/tech/default.aspx</a><br />
These are the homepages of these blogs. Individual post links will be even longer. I&#8217;m sure both have cute shortcuts that only their authors really use. But shouldn&#8217;t that in itself be an indication that there&#8217;s a problem to fix here? (At least Canoe got it right with their redesign: Dominic Arpin&#8217;s blog URL is the short (though redundant) <a href="http://doa.blogue.canoe.com/dominicarpin" rel="nofollow">http://doa.blogue.canoe.com/dominicarpin</a>.</p>
<p>8. Put online advertisers on a leash. I have to close web pages with newspaper articles because my CPU time is being gobbled up with dozens of overly-complicated ads desperate to get my attention. Stop these automatically-playing videos, whether they have audio or not. Stop these ads that assume because you swiped your cursor over them to get to the close button that this is permission to take over your computer and block the editorial content. Limit ads on the homepage so people can find their way to inside content (would newspapers put this many ads on their page one?)</p>
<p>9. Pick a layout and stick to it. I want a simple homepage with links to individual sections. I don&#8217;t want to spend 20 minutes while my computer figures out how the 30 sections of this homepage, each with its individual layout logic, are put together on a page that scrolls down for eternity.</p>
<p>10. Use blogs better. Put beat writers on blogs. Have blogs by experts, not laypeople. Encourage people to visit and comment. Don&#8217;t force people to go through your 20-page registration process before they can comment on a blog or story.</p>
<p>11. Hire professionals if you&#8217;re branching out. I don&#8217;t want badly-lit videos of talking heads shot by writers.</p>
<p>12. Encourage, but do not rely on, user-generated content. Yeah, finding people who have been screwed over by companies or the government will be easy. But crowdsourcing is not going to make you money. You still need qualified professionals with the time and skills to do quality </p>
<p>13. Put your archives online. You have huge databases of content that just sits there for some unknown reason. Blogs stay online forever, and you&#8217;re just losing ad money and reputation when someone following a link comes to a page that says &#8220;this article is no longer available.&#8221;</p>
<p>14. Don&#8217;t hire newspaper people to do online work. Hire web professionals and listen to what they have to say. Make them work alongside real newspaper people who can concern themselves with putting out a quality pulp product instead of trying to figure out your online content management system.</p>
<p>15. Hire me as a consultant ;)</p>
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